Pooch population in ST/PCV now 1,200

Stuy Town canine Callie, owned by Bill Oddo

Stuy Town canine Callie, owned by Bill Oddo

By Sabina Mollot

The last time the owner of Stuyvesant Town deigned to provide the number of dogs that were living in the community was in 2012, when CWCapital revealed to Town & Village that it was close to 1,100.

At the time, T&V noted that the figure was likely to grow since management had just begun to crack down on unregistered pooches at that time.

And grow it did, with the population of pooches now at 1,200, according to Blackstone’s data.

Meanwhile, since announcing its takeover of ST/PCV, new owners Blackstone and Ivanhoe Cambridge have steadily been approached by tenants on numerous dog-related issues from lack of rule enforcement to the lack of an onsite dog run.

On Saturday, at a meet-and-greet event for tenants and the new general manager Rick Hayduk, one resident wearing an “I (Bone) NY” sweatshirt said she planned to put in a request for a dog run. (The shirt was a freebie at an event for dogs and their owners that was held in Stuyvesant Town last May, with other freebies including Stuy Town logo-covered dog poop bags.)

The resident, malti-poo owner Belinda Medina, said she’d even be satisfied with a dog run that’s open part-time and suggested using one of the property’s lesser used playgrounds.

“Even if it’s just on the weekend for a few hours and even if we had to pay,” she said. “It would allow us to weed out the dogs that are not part of the community. I’m sure one of the dog (product) companies would be happy to sponsor it. I brought it up with the last owners. They weren’t interested, but it’s a new day.”

Blackstone has not yet announced any change in dog related policy or any plan for a dog run.

However, a spokesperson, Paula Chirhart, said, “The topic of dogs is something we have heard a lot about from tenants and we are looking into it.”

Dogs have been living in ST/PCV since Tishman Speyer lifted the ban on pets in 2008.

In other population-related news, the number of human tenants in Stuyvesant Town/Peter Cooper Village has also appeared to fluctuate, with a longtime estimate of 25,000 residents changing five years ago to being closer to 30,000, according to management’s data.

As of this time, the tenant population is almost 29,000, according to Chirhart. However, Chirhart added that this figure may not account for every baby.

In 2010, when the 30,000 number was provided by then management firm Rose Associates, company president Adam Rose had said this actually had been the number for a while. So rather than the population suddenly jumping due to new tenants crammed into converted apartments, the population had remained the same as children grew up and moved out and new people moved in, he said.

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18 thoughts on “Pooch population in ST/PCV now 1,200

    • You have no idea what you wish for. Good luck with dodging the dog poop all day on every sidewalk by your buildings. PSVST is like a giant dog toilet, poop smears and untouched pieces everywhere, urine streams and sidewalks are never washed. Be happy your kids can run free and use the Waterside Plaza clean grounds without stepping in disgusting poop.

  1. LIKE, FOR SURE . . .

    Since MetLife went to “luxury” and then sold PCV/ST for $5.4B, yes these two developments
    have indeed gone to the dogs.

    [This comment is no way to disparage our friendly animal friends.]

  2. That number is probably just the dogs that are registered. Has anyone ever seen a dog with a tag from STPCV? The number also doesn’t include all the outside dogs being brought onto the property.

    • Did you actually read the article? (now at 1,200, according to Blackstone’s data) What do you mean -probably just the dogs that are registered? Obviously those are the dogs that are registered.

  3. My follow-up as well: “The resident, malti-poo owner Belinda Medina, said she’d even be satisfied with a dog run that’s open part-time and suggested using one of the property’s lesser used playgrounds.”

    I have a location suggestion for the dog run. Right under her window. There are ZERO dog runs located within ANY NYC residential complexes such as PCVST. And for good reasons. There is also ZERO ice rinks located in within ANY NYC residential complexes such as PCVST. But’s that’s another thread.

  4. Let’s have the dog owners take responsibility for clean up on our sidewalks ,our hallways, our staircases our lobbies. Our maintence crew has enough work to do.
    Let’s have the dog owners exercise their dogs so they are not yapping in the apartments all day long.

    • Amen. Or at least let’s impose a small fee for each dog going towards hiring more personnel to clean the disgusting sidewalks! You have to literally do maze-runner on the sidewalks each day with the amount of excrement smears and urine streams all over, especially when it doesn’t rain for a few days. Disgusting. PCVST management needs to allocate more resources into cleaning the sidewalks if they want to allow large numbers of dogs.

  5. So there are private dog runs in NY apartments.

    http://www.riverplacenyc.com/nyc-apartments-amenities/

    http://www.silvertowers.com/nyc-apartments-amenities/pet-friendly

    Chelsea Stratus, 101 W. 24 St., rooftop dog run provided, one dog per unit.

    Gracie Point: Glenwood’s Luxury Apartments In NYC
    http://www.glenwoodnyc.com/properties/gracie-point-apartments/
    Enjoy the luxury of our many beautiful apartments in Gracie Point, NYC, including at … basketball courts, dog run and a view of the Roosevelt Island Lighthouse.

    15 NYC Apartment Buildings With Awesome Outdoor Spaces
    http://ny.curbed.com/…/15_nyc_apartment_buildings_with_awesome_…
    Curbed
    Jul 17, 2014 – 15 NYC Apartment Buildings With Awesome Outdoor Spaces … normal sun deck with grills and lounge chairs, plus two tennis courts, a dog run

    Why don’t we have grills and roof decks and tennis courts and a dog run??

  6. I was walking today from the F train on 6th Ave and was greeted with a street full of pee and poop on 22nd between 5th and 6th. It’s not a PCVST problem, it’s a city problem.

    • It’s the building’s problem. Excrement smears are inevitable, when large numbers of dogs live in the small area. Good buildings powerwash the sidewalks regularly to clean them up. Bad buildings let the rain take care of it, which makes the street a public toilet. A building on 2nd and 22nd does a great job power washing their sidewalk, it’s always fairly clean and I am sure they have dogs in that building and nearby, I see the guys power washing the street all the time. PCVST has to do the same, clean the roads if it doesn’t rain, if you allow so many dogs.

  7. I think it’s great it is such a friendly place for families and animals and allows people with dogs to get decent apartments. However, the PCVST has become disgusting. Many people are not picking up after their pets and don’t curb them leaving smears in the middle of the sidewalks and making it a ‘minefield’ to walk through. PCVST management does nothing to address the issue with penalizing offenders, despite the fact that they have cameras and don’t do anything to clean the sidewalks. It never used to be so bad, I guess they either washed the sidewalks before or didn’t allow so many dogs. I wish we could start a petition to ask PCVST to powerwash the sidewalks like many NYC buildings do or limit the number of dogs they allow or charge the dog owners a small fee towards sidewalk cleaning, unless the dogs are service animals.

  8. They used to wash the sidewalks in the old days (1950’s).
    They used to have a Zamboni like vehicle that scrubbed the sidewalks. Haven’t seen that thing around for a couple of years.
    A few months ago I saw maintenance guys using a power washer on a sidewalk paint stain on 20th street.

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