Letters to the editor, Aug. 23

Cartoon by Jim Meadows

Leave the squirrels alone

This squirrel thing is the straw that is breaking my back.  In this time of national hatefulness and disunity, Stuyvesant Town now has to be roiled by a few disgruntled people who probably have never seen much that they don’t complain about. Right off the bat, let me ask where are the mothers, fathers, nannies when these little kids are being mauled by the complex’s predators?

For 27 years, I have had very young nieces, nephews and children of friends feed the squirrels. It has always been the highlight of their visit – and I monitor how close squirrels get to each kid. Are you telling me that squirrels are just singling out young kids and pouncing on them before a watching adult can intervene? The creatures have been here since 1948 and coexisted with myriad of children brought up in Stuyvesant Town/Peter Cooper Village. And now this has all been happening just in the past two years?

I request that Town & Village search its archives and see how often and when there have been like complaints about squirrels. The less said the better about the older citizens who can’t bear to have a squirrel within three feet of them.

I find it appalling that Rick Hayduk is even contemplating removing the squirrels. Is there a hidden motive behind all of these squirrel complaints?  Would that Mr. Hayduk had shown as much concern over my complaints about the trash cans that were placed all over the complex two years ago (for the convenience of dog-owners and the discarding of the poop).  Where there never had been garbage we now have trash cans overflowing. People can’t be faulted.  A trash can is for garbage.  So, Mr. Hayduk, be as solicitous towards the squirrels and the squirrel lovers as you have been to the dog owners.

A. de Souza, ST
(a dog lover)

The great squirrel hunt

Re: “To feed or not to feed the squirrels,” T&V, Aug. 16 

Really? We’re worried about squirrels now? Dangerous animals? I’ve been bitten by a dog, and have seen kids get hit by golf balls from practicing golfers.

Maybe we should consider ridding ourselves of dogs and golfers from Stuy Town. Or, maybe we should consider the benefits of living in a non-sterile environment that teaches kids to appreciate and understand nature. The people who don’t feel this way should move to practically anywhere else in Manhattan which doesn’t offer the advantages we have here.

What’s next? Do we discuss poisoning the bird population because a sparrow has defecated on a child?

Please, give me a break!

J. Lee, ST

Whose fault is it that squirrels beg?

Re: “Uniting against the grey menace,” letter by William Kelly, T&V, Aug. 16

My eyes filled with tears as I read this letter to the editor talking about uniting against our squirrels.

Fellow tenants, are you aware of who was here first? Who the aliens are here? This land was inhabited long ago by Native American peoples as well as native American animals. We are the guests.

As such for more than 50 years we have cared for the creatures that inhabit this land with us. And it is incumbent upon us to continue to feed our furry friends and our winged cohabitants. We are the ones who made them accustomed to receiving food from us and therefore we need to continue. And if someone should move away, perhaps, William, it should be you.

Susan Turchin, ST

17 thoughts on “Letters to the editor, Aug. 23

  1. The difference between squirrels and dogs and golf balls, obviously, is rabies. The dogs here shouldn’t have that and they should be be aggressive breeds anyway, per the rules.

    The problem with dogs is rare and most likely because we don’t have more rigid security about who walks in here. I have seen pit bulls and many dogs without the stuytown tag, as well as people asking to be let into the playgrounds who don’t live here either.

    We need more secure entrances to the property.

    People who feed the squirrels are the problem, not the squirrels themselves. And without secure entrances, who’s to say that the people who do that even are supposed to here on our private property? They can come and feed them and leave- leaving residents with the issues.

    I have been scared on numerous occasions when walking past a playground by aggressive squirrels. Followed and stared at and they came too close for my comfort. It was very upsetting thought I never filed a complaint any of the times it happened. Others in my building have had the same experience.

    We don’t need to get rid of the squirrels but we do need better security at all of the entrances not just the car.

    And signs for no feeding everywhere. And maybe consequences ( we have cameras) for those that do.

    Let’s keep us all safe. Residents and squirrels alike.

    • It would be best to issue key cards to all the squirrels so we know that indeed, they belong here. Then, perhaps enroll them in the Affordable Care Act so they can be properly inoculated against rabies. At that point, they can be issued MetroCards, so they can use the ferries to get back and forth to Brooklyn which would relieve them of that exhausting swim that they’ve been making daily. The last order would be to politely ask all the flyover idiots who can’t deal with a NYC squirrel to kindly return from whence they came.

      • Nailed it. Another thing, how else
        Will the squirrels feed themselves? They can’t. They rely on us to feed them. Get a clue. Pick up an ecology book. This is not the wilderness, they have no resource of food.


        A degree holding environmental scientist

  2. OMG! Being stared at by squirrels! What a horror! How terrifying! And here I thought that the speeding bikes, fast-moving silent club cars, nasty little dogs and he winos who inhabit the benches, as well as the occasional rapist and mugger who has ten minutes under a security camera to do his evil deeds, were a threat! But being stared at by squirrels, well, that would take years of trauma therapy to get over. That must be even more terrifying than having NYU students running meth factores and offing themselves and endangering others with buckets of sulphuric acid.

    FWIW, rabies in squirrels is very, very rare. The above-mentioned hazards to life in this peaceful, oasis (LOL!) are far more frequent – some on a daily basis. But I have to admit, there is nothing on God’s earth more terrifying and traumatizing than being stared at by a squirrel. I hope you eventually recover from your terrifying experiences and don’t have nightmares for the rest of your life because squirrels stared at you.

    PS Have you ever been eating at the outdoor cafe (or at home) and had a dog stare you down, hoping for a morsel?

    I hope that Management will fund a trauma clinic for people who have been stared at by squirrels.

    • Being approached aggressively and stared at with a creepy look ( not dog like) by a wild animal that could have a disease- and who has a track record of hurting people is obv not the same thing as a pet or even a pet who wants some food.

      This is crazy that you claim trauma and obviously don’t care for children or the people who are your neighbors getting hurt.

      If you want to feed animals that aren’t your pet- why not go live in the woods?

      You don’t care or humans, that much is clear and your crazed lack of concern for the welfare of children and neighbors should get you kicked out of Stuytown. Though I suspect you don’t actually live in Stuytown and are a trespasser.

      You don’t have the respect or courtesy that we need in order to ensure a safe community and I pity the people in your building. You also sound like someone who is a trespasser here in our private property, and you should stay away from the people who are on the lease and actually live here. Your views are a danger to the well being and safety of the community who likes children and their neighbors, you unwell sadist.

      • LOL! I’ve lived here all my life and raised children here. Never had a problem with squirrels, birds or any of the natural wildlife here. All the trouble started when the property became infested with dogs and their droppings, filthy people who leave garbage all over the property and all kinds of stuff I can’t mention left in stairwells. This used to be a safe, clean and peaceful community. Not anymore and maybe it’s people like you who should leave.

        • With all due respect, you are not believable.

          Everything you say sounds delusional.

          Especially that garbage or dogs somehow magically create aggressive squirrels- who demand to be fed and/or attack?

          Ditto for being more concerned about being able to feed squirrels than for the safety of humans who live here and children especially.

          There’s no way anyone would believe anything you say when you write and think the way you do.

          Still don’t believe you live in Stuytown, lol

      • The very fact that you call this place “Stuytown” pretty much pegs you as a new arrival. That’s Blackstone marketing schtick.

        And really? Squirrels giving you “creepy looks”?

        • I don’t know what you have against children or why you think that feeding squirrels is the most important part of this place, but it’s not healthy. Your attitude is far worse than garbage, etc to the community that actually lives here. Unlike you..

          And it’s been long and well documented that pets are great for people and their health. And children. They teach responsibility and unconditional love and are wonderful for our immunity and longevity.

          Squirrels on the other hand…

  3. You are whacko. I didn’t say that garbage or dogs create aggressive squirrels. I said garbage and dogs create a bigger health risk than squirrels. Please improve your reading skills, if you can.

    • B-B-But think of the poor CHILDREN, getting creepy looks! Nightmarish!

      I don’t feed squirrels, don’t care if anyone else does, and would barely notice if they all disappeared overnight.

      But to say squirrels are an issue, but hundreds of dogs evacuating their bowels two or three times daily in a crowded residential area, is just…..nuts.

  4. I grew up here. I don’t remember the squirrels being a problem, but I also knew not to feed them.

    The squirrels today are far more aggressive. The cause can be debated. But squirrels SHOULD NOT BE FED. They are wild animals.

    Have some sympathy for the kids who are getting scratched and jumped on by squirrels, and remember that we live in a community where our actions affect each other.

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